4 Hour Tarmac Rule Question

[Scott Dyer HPN/NY]

Let's say there's a delay on departure, with the aircraft loaded but remaining at the gate, door open, jetway attached. Could the 4 hour interval be reset if the passengers were, after a few hours, allowed to exit the aircraft to use the terminal loos and then clamber back on board after 15 -20 mins. I'm not asking if the logistics are something an airline would undertake, just the legal question about resetting the tarmac rule time period in this scenario.

[Bruce Gorrell]

I'm no expert, but I don't think the 4 hour rule starts until the aircraft is pushed back.

[Scott Dyer HPN/NY]

I'm no expert, but I don't think the 4 hour rule starts until the aircraft is pushed back.

Thanks,Bruce.

[Randy Sohn]

Let's say

Scott, had it happen to me exactly that way once! Only problem is - jsut cannot seem to recall now much about the details re what'd happend or was said. This coming Tuesday morning is our twice monthly retired Duck's breaakfast and I'll ask if anyone there knows/recalls.

best, randy

[Scott Dyer HPN/NY]

Scott, had it happen to me exactly that way once! Only problem is - jsut cannot seem to recall now much about the details re what'd happend or was said. This coming Tuesday morning is our twice monthly retired Duck's breaakfast and I'll ask if anyone there knows/recalls.

best, randy

Do let me know, Randy. Thanks.

[Larry sreyoB]

It's a three-hour rule for domestic flights. Four-hours for international flights.

The timer doesn't start until the main cabin door is closed.

The timer is reset if the door is reopened and egress is offered. If egress is offered, the opportunity to egress must be mentioned in each PA announcement.

[Randy Sohn]

Do let me know, Randy. Thanks.

Looking to me like Larry has the most current.

best, randy

[Scott Dyer HPN/NY]

It's a three-hour rule for domestic flights. Four-hours for international flights.

The timer doesn't start until the main cabin door is closed.

The timer is reset if the door is reopened and egress is offered. If egress is offered, the opportunity to egress must be mentioned in each PA announcement.

Thanks, Larry. Yes, the situation in the back of my mind was international.

[Richard Duxbury]

I think many airlines would rather just cancel the flight than take the risk of a big fine. Often they use the excuse of weather -and perhaps do not have to worry about food and overnight expenses for the passengers? (Well, often it is weather related and perhaps not at that specific airport)..

Regards, Dux -perhaps BP's for a brief visit this Saturday but have to leave at 11:50.

[Cole Loftus]

Disappointing; no discussion of "tarmac".

[Scott Dyer HPN/NY]

Disappointing; no discussion of "tarmac".

I wasn't disappointed at all.

Pretty soon we'll be able to have Avsig discussions by number, "47!" You know the drill.....

(Grouchy mode, ON)

[Randy Sohn]

no discussion of "tarmac".

I read about them once, IIRC it was in "Renfro of the Royal Mounted Police"?

best, randy

[Cole Loftus]

I wasn't disappointed at all.

Pretty soon we'll be able to have Avsig discussions by number, "47!" You know the drill.....

(Grouchy mode, ON)

Was that the alumiputsch (sp?) vs. lift gnomes? Or Doug Kaye's bundt icing?

[Cole Loftus]

I read about them once, IIRC it was in "Renfro of the Royal Mounted Police"?

best, randy

Haven't seen Renfrew, not sure if I should.

[Ray Tackett]

Taking Off From A Tarmac Treadmill, Turning Downwind Into The Dead Engine

There, that covers it. Now we can move on to a memorable checkride.