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[Russell Holton]

Strange one tonight. A number of sections lit up, but after reading the only new message I could find, they didn't go back to normal. I had to mark everything read to make it go back to normal.

[Russell Holton]

am I missing something/somebody here on Avsig??

Did you see this thread?

[Randy Sohn]

sawB.Butler posted a new thread titled "HEY, RANDY" under aircraft/antique-classic. As a result,

Dunno 'bout all this on many preceding pages, gobble-de-gook to me, am I missing something/somebody here on Avsig??

best, randy

[Russell Holton]

Mine is clearly a "span" issue of some kind. If I ignore a thread with new messages for too long, eventually, a bunch of sections will light up. Once I read all the true unread messages, all the false ones go away. Even if I don't enter those sections. I've repeated that several times. I haven't kept track of how long it takes, but it's around a couple of weeks.

I saw a variation of this today. B.Butler posted a new thread titled "HEY, RANDY" under aircraft/antique-classic. As a result, a number of sections under "aircraft" lit up indicating unread messages (not just the Antique-Classic section). There were no unread messages previously. But once I read that one new thread, everything went back to normal.

[Terry Carraway]

One more time.

This time, I did not log in from any other computer, but went over a week without accessing the forum. I was in Turkmenistan, where the internet is pretty locked down. Many sites (including AVSIG) would not load, but would error out stating the reply did not have any content.

So made it s Frankfurt, and many sections were marked as have new content, but did not.

I was last on AVSIG May 3 or 4, then back today, May 12.

[Russell Holton]

Mine is clearly a "span" issue of some kind. If I ignore a thread with new messages for too long, eventually, a bunch of sections will light up. Once I read all the true unread messages, all the false ones go away.

This time I deliberately left one thread unread. About 9 days later, icons started lighting up that shouldn't have been.

[Terry Carraway]

Hmm, if I ignore new message threads, eventually, they stop showing at new. That is all.

[Russell Holton]

I am now pretty sure, in my case, the false new message in a section is due to switching computers.

I will see them when I have been on one computer (home, work, laptop) then go to a different one. I don't log out of AVSIG when I am done, but I close the browser tab each time. I log out of my work computer at the end of each day (required for us), but my home computer is 24/7. My laptop is put to sleep in between uses.

Mine is clearly a "span" issue of some kind. If I ignore a thread with new messages for too long, eventually, a bunch of sections will light up. Once I read all the true unread messages, all the false ones go away. Even if I don't enter those sections. I've repeated that several times. I haven't kept track of how long it takes, but it's around a couple of weeks.

[Terry Carraway]

I am now pretty sure, in my case, the false new message in a section is due to switching computers.

I will see them when I have been on one computer (home, work, laptop) then go to a different one. I don't log out of AVSIG when I am done, but I close the browser tab each time. I log out of my work computer at the end of each day (required for us), but my home computer is 24/7. My laptop is put to sleep in between uses.

[Mike Overly]

Where is the "Since last" stored? Does it require an actual logout to "save/update"? What happens if someone abandons their session and another user posts a new message before the abandoned session times out?

It's an Advanced Search result that's executed upon your visit and any refresh action during your visit. If there's anything that's causing that search to believe you've been hanging around here the whole time when you perform your "new" login you're probably going to miss some messages on that list. That would include your scenario where a message is posted after you leave, but where you're still cached here in that timeout window. I can also see people missing new messages in that box that appear during their session while they're focused on other message traffic.

[Russell Holton]

Where is the "Since last" stored? Does it require an actual logout to "save/update"? What happens if someone abandons their session and another user posts a new message before the abandoned session times out?

[Mike Overly]

Mike, many months ago this function worked properly. Now it doesn't. I've changed nothing at my end. I still log on and look for New Messages the same as I always have, but now the results are variable. Maybe, the change has been at other than the search box, but something HAS changed . . . and not at my end. To say otherwise does not make it go away.

Ward: As the only guy who wreaks havoc on the forum software I can assure you: nope . If you browse the discussion link I included above you will find that there are several variables on your end that can affect that "New Since Last" display. I find that list very handy and have yet to miss a message, but I've always got my eye on it since there continue to be reports like yours.

[Ward Miller]

Ward: There have been no changes to that search box.

Mike, many months ago this function worked properly. Now it doesn't. I've changed nothing at my end. I still log on and look for New Messages the same as I always have, but now the results are variable. Maybe, the change has been at other than the search box, but something HAS changed . . . and not at my end. To say otherwise does not make it go away.

[Mike Overly]

Scott, in my experience, about three months ago or so the list of New Since Last Visit was exactly that. Then I began to notice occasional exceptions. Recently, these exceptions appear several times a day. Mike explained it as the complexity of the search algorithm.

My experience of 40 years producing and maintaining programming products points to a simple cause: a bad fix. When things run okay for months, then suddenly don't we always looked at the most recent bug fix. Without fail, it was always the cause.

Either the forum owners will fix it . . . or they won't.

Ward: There have been no changes to that search box. We’ve established that results are highly dependent on your cached presence on the forum, so again, I’d suggest you skip the box if it’s giving you grief. The "Recent Posts" selection should serve you fine, but you can always browse the section summaries as well.

[Ward Miller]

Scott, in my experience, about three months ago or so the list of New Since Last Visit was exactly that. Then I began to notice occasional exceptions. Recently, these exceptions appear several times a day. Mike explained it as the complexity of the search algorithm.

My experience of 40 years producing and maintaining programming products points to a simple cause: a bad fix. When things run okay for months, then suddenly don't we always looked at the most recent bug fix. Without fail, it was always the cause.

Either the forum owners will fix it . . . or they won't.