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    Showing my age here...

    I just watched a video where BOS tower told flights to "line up and wait."

    I haven't been active for a while, and "position and hold" was the normal instruction back in the day.

    Sorry if this is an old weather-beaten topic, but I'm curious about the change.

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    It changed about ten years ago to put US phraseology in compliance with ICAO phraseology.

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    • #3
      Hi Dave, nice to see your name here. I was thinking about you and your Cherokee 6 a little bit ago as I have a client with one of those.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Larry sreyoB View Post
        It changed about ten years ago to put US phraseology in compliance with ICAO phraseology.
        I'm guessing that metric altimeters are coming to an airspace near you, one of these days. (Still disliking the change to using Celsius in weather reporting.)

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        • #5
          September 30th, 2010, to be exact. https://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_...t_events/lauw/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by John O'Shaughnessy [FCM] View Post
            Wow John, it seems like we just started doing that just the other day. ROFL
            I Earned my Spurs in Vietnam
            48th AHC 1971-72

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bill Bridges View Post

              Wow John, it seems like we just started doing that just the other day. ROFL
              I was just thinking that. Ten years already?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stephanie Belser View Post

                I'm guessing that metric altimeters are coming to an airspace near you, one of these days. (Still disliking the change to using Celsius in weather reporting.)
                A friend refers to it as that damn French weather.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stephanie Belser View Post
                  Still disliking the change to using Celsius in weather reporting.
                  Well, it's not like we don't have company in the Fahrenheit world. There's Liberia, Myanmar, and -- ummm...

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                  • #10
                    >>Liberia, Myanmar, and -- ummm...<<

                    Cayman Islands, Antigua, Barbuda, Saint Kitts, Nevis, Bahamas, Belize, Micronesia, Palau, .....
                    Each an industrial powerhouse....<g>

                    I don't know about Myanmar.... ...looks like they have gone over the hill, if not officially...

                    Reams

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave Doherty View Post
                      Showing my age here...

                      I just watched a video where BOS tower told flights to "line up and wait."

                      I haven't been active for a while, and "position and hold" was the normal instruction back in the day.

                      Sorry if this is an old weather-beaten topic, but I'm curious about the change.

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                      • #12
                        Sorry, a little late into the conversation. But the answer is here;

                        FAA Aeronautical Information Manual. Para. 5−2−4. Line Up and Wait (LUAW)

                        Line up and wait is an air traffic control (ATC) procedure designed to position an aircraft onto the runway for an imminent departure. The ATC instruction “LINE UP AND WAIT” is used to instruct a pilot to taxi onto the departure runway and line up and wait.

                        Free AIM here; https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publ...d_10-12-17.pdf

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                        • #13
                          I brought this up years ago (probably on SIG II), after hearing it on Ch 9 on a United flight.

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