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Originally posted by Mike Overly View PostA "false" unread message notification is likely another issue entirely -- namely using the browser back arrow or otherwise exiting the message window without navigating back through the parent directory. (In the case of "In Memoriam" that would entail navigating to the Home/AVSIG/In Memoriam tree at the top-upper-left of the page just under "Forum" on the nav bar and clicking any one of those three links to back out). Sig II also needed this exit strategy.
My theory is that the forum software is caching the status flags somewhere on the server. Something is corrupting them (false unread). The forum software clings to it's cached flags as the truth until a read a message in that section. Then will go and re-assess the situation.
But that said, it's also possible that the same bug could cause a false "nothing new" indication. It's just corrupting the flags in a different direction.
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Originally posted by Russell Holton View PostHow so? In the past, I've seen a false flag set for "In Memoriam" which hasn't had a post in the last 6 months. Yes, I do have multiple browser windows open on multiple devices, but none of those sessions are older than a few days. It's not a case where I'm seeing something lit up simply because my browser session is old. And when it happens, it affects all my sessions and persists for multiple days, so the information is somehow written into my account on the forum, not just in one browser's cookies. As such, my suspicion is one of the add-on modules. I'm sure they read the "new" flags, but why any of them would write something back to it, I don't know.
If you are backing out via this method and refreshing your view of AVSIG in other open windows/devices, the false flag should clear. I have a few sections I just leave without navigating the section tree -- some still showing "unread" messages since January, but if I navigate out per above the unread flag is gone no matter how I log into the forum.
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Originally posted by Mike Overly View PostI still believe this is a caching issue related to devices in use and open browser sessions.
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I still believe this is a caching issue related to devices in use and open browser sessions. We have three separate means of message notification (New Since Last Visit, Recent Posts, and the highlighted flags before message headers containing unread messages). The AVSIG color/style option shouldn’t have an effect on message filtering – all the themes are built off the vBulletin base stylesheet, and the only customization between styles is cosmetic.
Let’s try something. I’m going to zap the “New Since Last Visit” module as well as the "Jump To" module, leaving only the “Recent Posts” filter in the header bar and the native section flag unread message notification up. Now, when you miss a message notification, please report whether the missing notification was in “Recent Posts,” “Message Header Flag” or “Both.” Also, please note whether this circumstance occurred in a clean browser visit, an open browser that actively has AVSIG up in a window during its session, or an open browser that at any time had an active AVSIG session in it. Also note whether AVSIG is open on any other device you use or was open in a browser window that’s still open on one of those devices (but only in cases the browser is a device-shared browser login [common Chrome login on a phone and laptop, for instance]).
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Originally posted by Russell Holton View Post
Maybe so, but most computer people will attest that one of the deadly sins in computing is to stray too far from a standard.
Andrew S Tanenbaum
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Originally posted by Nancy Zeitlin View PostAnyone that “grew up” using TapCis knows that there’s a better way,
For now, I think I'll change my forum preference to "Avsig" which seems to be a closer to the default "vBulletin" layout. I'll see if that helps.
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Originally posted by Russell Holton View Post
This isn't a user interface problem. This is a bug. I'd find it unlikely it's the fault of vBulletin. If it was, there's be a patch for it rather quickly. More likely, it's some add-on customization acting up.
Anyone that “grew up” using TapCis knows that there’s a better way, and Bob has kept it alive in AVSIG while battling *almost* unsurmountable obstacles.
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I frequent other forums that run vBulletin, and have not seen this issue on any of them.
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Originally posted by Robert Dubner View Post...and I can't help but sit here feeling a certain level of contentment. Some might even call me smug, but some don't fully understand how enlightened I am.
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...and I can't help but sit here feeling a certain level of contentment. Some might even call me smug, but some don't fully understand how enlightened I am.
I run my program. It scans my locally stored message file, looking for the youngest message. It downloads and saves new messages, "new" being defined as "younger than the prior youngest". It shows me the first new one. I press Enter. It shows me the next new one. I press Enter again....
The web has taught us to put up with poor user interfaces.
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How it's hit a number of section. It appears something is messing up the "cached" copy of the "read" flag. The question is "what"?
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Had it happen again. But this time just the Hot Section. Was a message created then deleted from there in the last 24 hours?
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Originally posted by Scott Dyer HPN/NY View PostMike -- This morning, when I log into Avsig, a number of sections indicate that there are new messages in them (the filled in blue quote bubble) when in fact there are not.
The only way I can clear it is be going into that section and opening a thread. It doesn't seem to matter which one. I just have to force it to check if everything is done. Simply going into the section and then going back (by clicking on Avsig in the 'path') doesn't do it.
I'm not seeing a rhyme or reason as to what sections are affected. If you recently moved a bunch of threads, that might be it.
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